Saturday saw people travelling from Dumfries, Fife, the Borders, Glasgow and across central Scotland to be part of the Building a Movement for Yes event. There’ll be a full report to follow, but first a round up of some of the news and views this St Andrews Day.
By Mike Small. This is the key bit here: ‘10.21 A referendum is essential because the Scottish Government believes that this debate cannot be restricted to the Scottish Parliament. The National Conversation has allowed the people to articulate their views, and it is now time for them to be invited to express those views in a formal way.’ Read the whole thing here.
Four possible scenarios for Scotland’s future are contained in the white paper:
1) no change in the present set-up
2) more powers, as recommended by the Calman Commission review of devolution
3) a major transfer of responsibilities from Westminster to Holyrood, such as full financial autonomy
4) independence
Speaking at its launch in Edinburgh, Salmond said: “It’s time for the people to have their say on Scotland’s future. The debate in Scottish politics is no longer between change or no change – it’s about the kind of change we seek and the right of the people to choose their future in a free and fair referendum.”
Perhaps assuming that all political parties are ready to jettison their core beliefs at a moments notice, Iain Gray predictably urged the SNP to drop the referendum and instead called on the Scottish Govt to drop it and focus on more immediate concerns, such as the recession.
As you’d expect the media is uniformly hostile, sometimes viciously so to the referendum idea, or perhaps just to democracy in general.
Despite universal gloom and doom amongst the commentariat its a pretty clear referendum choice. Despite the repeated accusation of SNP intransigence and dogma, it’s pretty conciliatory, some would say too much so.
Whilst trying to set as bleak a picture as she can muster Jackie Ashley at the Guardian concludes:
“The deals to be done are fascinating. To get a referendum through the Scottish parliament, the SNP needs Labour or Tory votes. Labour wouldn’t want the devo-max option on the ballot, though the SNP (and perhaps the Tories) would. But as the tectonic plates of Scottish politics shift, these are details that can be dealt with. The result? A referendum on Scotland’s place in the UK is now seriously on the cards, at some stage after next spring’s general election. What Salmond is announcing in Edinburgh is not a fantasy agenda. And it could have a direct relevance for every citizen, every taxpayer and every political party in the rest of the United Kingdom. Whether St Andrew’s Day 2009 feels like a moment to celebrate depends on your taste in politics. I, for one, feel a little queasy.”
Kevin McKenna (‘I Trust the People to Save the Union’) writes a spirited diatribe ending atleast fairly: “A referendum on returning us to an independent state, though, will be the election of our lives. A democratically elected nationalist government has a right to present it and we have the right to take part in it.” He does however talk quite a lot of drivel in between a strong opening and a fair ending, including the remarkably stupid comment that:
“There are few, if any, separatists who can demonstrate how everyday life in Scotland will improve after independence in any specific area.”
Closer to home Iain Macwhirter is dabbling in semantics asking: ‘The real question is does independence matter?”. Well the answers to Iain and Kevins questions return home in body bags from Afghanistan and until recently from Iraq on a all too regular basis. And the common riposte in today’s papers has been about the cost of the referendum, yet no one is blinking an eye at the arrival of the hideous Astute (sic) submarine on the clyde or the insanity of the Trident nuclear programe (estimated cost £125 billion) which Iain’s own newspaper revealed only a day ago that – as Cilla used to say ‘Surprise Surprise’ – our deterrent isnt very independent after all.
Iain writes: “The Calman report, for all its faults, is a tribute to the success of the SNP in office. All the unionist parties now support giving Holyrood greater tax powers, something that would have been inconceivable only three years ago. Whoever wins the next UK election, something like Calman is going to be introduced and this will require the active…”
This just isnt true. Almost as soon as the Calman Commission reported the three parties unity impoded. The Liberal Democrats have been gleefuly indolent, the Tories are in total disarray (see Sunday Herald again) while Labour are offering the prospect of control over handguns in six years time.
You ask does independence matter? Yes it does, and most people know it. Scotland’s independence would represent a huge geopolitic event, hence Jim Sillars recent articulation that the reason the Union is being fought so strongly is that the nuclear weapons on our soil represent the Anglo-British States membership to a permanent position at the UN Security Council. It’s only our own brow-beaten self depreciation that tells us we are not of any importance. The media are complicit in this, evoking what C.J. Watson once described as ‘the sense of weariness, of the absence of hope, and lacerating self-contempt which is a marked component in the psyche of colonised people’ (Literature of the North, 1983). We are self-colonised, but the description might seem familiar.
That sense of being insignificant and lacking in direction, more than anything would change with self-determination and shift the sort of hopeless politics represented by Scotland having no representation in Copenhagen despite showing genuine global leadership in climate change legislation.
The reality is that no-one elected Calman and the opponents of independence need to be specific about what they are putting on the table, hence, I believe options two and three.
I don’t believe the media any more. I don’t believe in the banking system, I don’t believe in eternal growth, I don’t believe the British State protects us. I don’t believe in weapons of mass destruction in my country, I don’t believe our troops should have been in Iraq, nor should they be in Afghanistan. We can only change these things by creating a new democracy that’s fit to the challenge of the post-crash reality, away from the corruption of Westminster and the suffocating institutional consensus of Union, free market and elite rule. These politicians and these instutions are irredeemably lost and the sooner we realise this the better.
See interview with the First Minister and Nick Robinson here. See also Gerry Hassan on constitution and inequality here.


That Labour can hold a seat in a by-election brought about by the exposure of massive corruption and incompetence, in a constituency that has been ’served’ by Labour for 74 years and by a Labour Govt for a decade, yet still faces some of the worst poverty, poor housing and deprivation in Western Europe is astonishing. That the SNP have failed to capture a seat in these circumstances is equally so.
Democracy at a global scale is becoming for the first time, a real possibility that we call the multitude’s project. Multitude’s project is not only expressing the desire of a world of equality and liberty, it does not only claim for a global democratic society open and inclusive: it actually demonstrate the means of releasing this desire.
The same political forces that ask us to believe in the Union are the ones that are shredding Britain of the only civic institutions that would make that concept viable, public realm bodies such as the National Health Service, the Royal Mail and the education bodies are being broken down and sold off. As
The British State has evolved into a surveillance society and a police state with the combination of digital technology, database culture and the use of ‘the war on terror’ as a smokescreen for a full-on assault on civil liberties. From Tomlinson to Jean Charles de Menezes to the full extent of this co-ordinated national police force it adds up to a police state off the leash, unaccountable and dangerously out of control.
They’re just making it up now…Gerry Hassan in today’s Scotsman outlines the recent attempts to re-awaken an old debate that somehow we would need TWO referendums to gain independence. The first, you see, to sort of see if we wanted it, and the second, to, you know, er, just check we knew what we were talking about.
Our friend Tom Griffin argues that Anthony Barnett’s piece on the BNP and the BBC is the best he’s seen so far, and certainly Barnett is clear where some have been ambiguous:
November 9, 2009
Simon Mann
The only addition we can make to this is the fervent hope that Mark Thatcher gets jail.
Murray is also good on Rory Stewart the Tory who has been the recent subject of an embarrasingly gushing artcile by Deborah Orr. He may be a bit of posh-totty for Guardian hacks but, as Murray puts it plainly:
‘Let me be plain. Rory Stewart was an officer for Torturers’R'Us (formerly trading as MI6).’
“I am not rejoicing at the return of Old Etonian Simon Mann from jail in Equatorial Guinea. His failed coup attempt was just one of a series of ventures in which a group of upper class public school English former officers worked with former apartheid era forces to try to seize control of mineral resources across Africa.
You can find the story of my own involvement with them, the full background and the untold evidence of Blairite complicity in my book The Catholic Orangemen of Togo.
Long term readers of this blog will know that Mann’s erstwhile mercenary partner, Lt Col Tim Spicer, frightened my publisher out of the book by commissioning Schillings to send threatening letters under the UK’s notorious libel laws. But the book is entirely true, eyewitness stuff, as witnessed by the fact that, since self-publication, over a thousand copies have been sold while tens of thousands have read it free online – but there has been no sign of the threatened libel action from Spicer.
New Labour, of course, went on to consummate their relationship with Spicer by making him a multi multi millionaire providing mercenaries to their invasion of Iraq.
Had Mann’s coup succeeded in gaining the oilfields of Equatorial Guinea, it would almost certainly have resulted in the deaths of large numbers of Africans, just as Mann and Spicer organised in their in Executive Outcomes days. That is why I think he should still be in jail.”
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